Lesson Info
21. Quiz: Focal Length
Summary (Generated from Transcript)
In this lesson, John Greengo quizzes the students on identifying the focal length of various photographs. Team A and Team B take turns guessing the focal length of the photos shown, and the instructor provides feedback and explanations for each answer. The lesson also touches on the concept of vignetting and its effect on photographs.
Q&A:
What is the purpose of the quiz in this lesson?
The purpose of the quiz is to test the students' understanding of focal lengths in photography.
How does the instructor provide clues to help the teams guess the correct focal length?
The instructor offers suggestions and reasons why a certain focal length might be appropriate for a particular photograph.
How does the instructor handle close guesses?
If a team is one off in their guess, the instructor considers it a close guess and does not give the other team a chance to steal the point.
What is vignetting and why does it occur?
Vignetting is a darkening of the corners of a photograph. It occurs more prominently in wide angle lenses because light has to travel further to reach the corners, resulting in a darker appearance.
Can vignetting be added or removed in post-processing?
Yes, vignetting can be both added and removed in post-processing depending on the desired effect in the photograph.
Lessons
Class Introduction
23:32 2Photographic Characteristics
06:46 3Camera Types
03:03 4Viewing System
22:09 5Lens System
24:38 6Shutter System
12:56 7Shutter Speed Basics
10:16 8Shutter Speed Effects
31:57Camera & Lens Stabilization
11:06 10Quiz: Shutter Speeds
07:55 11Camera Settings Overview
16:12 12Drive Mode & Buffer
04:24 13Camera Settings - Details
10:21 14Sensor Size: Basics
18:26 15Sensor Sizes: Compared
24:52 16The Sensor - Pixels
22:49 17Sensor Size - ISO
26:59 18Focal Length
11:36 19Angle of View
31:29 20Practicing Angle of View
04:59 21Quiz: Focal Length
08:15 22Fisheye Lens
12:32 23Tilt & Shift Lens
20:37 24Subject Zone
13:16 25Lens Speed
09:03 26Aperture
08:25 27Depth of Field (DOF)
21:46 28Quiz: Apertures
08:22 29Lens Quality
07:06 30Light Meter Basics
09:04 31Histogram
11:48 32Quiz: Histogram
09:07 33Dynamic Range
07:25 34Exposure Modes
35:15 35Sunny 16 Rule
04:31 36Exposure Bracketing
08:08 37Exposure Values
20:01 38Quiz: Exposure
20:44 39Focusing Basics
13:08 40Auto Focus (AF)
24:39 41Focus Points
17:18 42Focus Tracking
19:26 43Focusing Q&A
06:40 44Manual Focus
07:14 45Digital Focus Assistance
07:35 46Shutter Speeds & Depth of Field (DOF)
05:18 47Quiz: Depth of Field
15:54 48DOF Preview & Focusing Screens
04:55 49Lens Sharpness
11:08 50Camera Movement
11:29 51Advanced Techniques
15:15 52Quiz: Hyperfocal Distance
07:14 53Auto Focus Calibration
05:15 54Focus Stacking
07:58 55Quiz: Focus Problems
18:54 56Camera Accessories
32:41 57Lens Accessories
29:24 58Lens Adaptors & Cleaning
13:14 59Macro
13:02 60Flash & Lighting
04:47 61Tripods
14:13 62Cases
06:07 63Being a Photographer
11:29 64Natural Light: Direct Sunlight
28:37 65Natural Light: Indirect Sunlight
15:57 66Natural Light: Mixed
04:20 67Twilight: Sunrise & Sunset Light
22:21 68Cloud & Color Pop: Sunrise & Sunset Light
06:40 69Silhouette & Starburst: Sunrise & Sunset Light
07:28 70Golden Hour: Sunrise & Sunset Light
07:52 71Quiz: Lighting
05:42 72Light Management
10:46 73Flash Fundamentals
12:06 74Speedlights
04:12 75Built-In & Add-On Flash
10:47 76Off-Camera Flash
25:48 77Off-Camera Flash For Portraits
15:36 78Advanced Flash Techniques
08:22 79Editing Assessments & Goals
08:57 80Editing Set-Up
06:59 81Importing Images
03:59 82Organizing Your Images
32:41 83Culling Images
13:57 84Categories of Development
30:59 85Adjusting Exposure
08:03 86Remove Distractions
04:02 87Cropping Your Images
09:53 88Composition Basics
26:36 89Point of View
28:56 90Angle of View
14:35 91Subject Placement
23:22 92Framing Your Shot
07:27 93Foreground & Background & Scale
03:51 94Rule of Odds
05:00 95Bad Composition
07:31 96Multi-Shot Techniques
19:08 97Pixel Shift, Time Lapse, Selective Cloning & Noise Reduction
12:24 98Human Vision vs The Camera
23:32 99Visual Perception
10:43 100Quiz: Visual Balance
14:05 101Visual Drama
16:45 102Elements of Design
09:24 103Texture & Negative Space
03:57 104Black & White & Color
10:33 105The Photographic Process
09:08 106Working the Shot
25:29 107What Makes a Great Photograph?
07:01Lesson Info
Quiz: Focal Length
We are now gonna see if you guys have been paying attention, 'cause it is time for your first quiz of the day. So let's get the microphones to the captains, and, let's see, I think we're starting with team A, I think they're first up on the block. And so what we're gonna do is it's gonna be kind of like we did in the previous quiz. I'm gonna show you a photo, I'm gonna give you a limited selection of focal lengths that it could be, I'll give you a little bit of time to discuss it, and then you tell us what you think. So team A, here is your first photo, and we're gonna be talking about the major focal lengths that I've been talking about in the class. And start giving your captain some thoughts here. Kenna, are you playing along on your own here? I am playing along. (laughs) And I am not looking at the answers. (both laugh) Very good. Okay, do we have an answer for team A? 200 mil. And the answer is 200, very good. That was a quick answer, so one point for team A. Team B, are y...
ou ready? Your shot is right here. Just in case you're interested, this was taken in Morocco, and I think Kenna was not, Kenna took something like this too. Mm-hmm. See there. They're thinking about this. Offer some suggestions, give them some reasons why it might be one or the other. Do we have an answer for team B? We're gonna throw out 24. 24, well. Let's see what we got here. 16 is pretty close, and you know what? We're not gonna give it to the other team to choose here, you don't get a point for it, but I'm not gonna give them a chance to steal, because when you're one off, you're pretty close. 'Cause you are in the ballpark. So you're not losing a point here. Okay, so we're gonna kind of call it neutral there, but that was very good. Okay, I get to make up the rules as we go along. (class laughs) This is my class. Okay, so we're over to team A. We're at a market. Think about how would we photograph at a market, what does it look like, foreground subjects, background subjects. Alright, we're gonna need an answer. They wanna go with 35. 35. Oh, that's a good answer, because street photography, 35's a really good lens for doing that. And so as I look over to the board, I now see that we are tied up, five to five. Okay, so over to team B, a very different looking shot here. And I think we are in Istanbul, Turkey, just in case you're interested on this one. I don't know if holding fingers up to the screen helps in this case. (laughs) That's what I was just gonna ask you. Can you do it in reverse? (both laugh) We have a... an answer. Okay, good, good. (all laugh) And the answer we're going with, John, is 400. Would you like to justify or say why you think that's so? Huge amount of compression, and the sun is really big and looks close. Okay. Big sun in there, and so that is the correct answer, point for team B. Nice job, spot on. Alright, these can be a little bit tough, 'cause there's some things that are pretty close in there. I'm trying to give you just enough clues that you can probably figure it out. I don't like to make tests that are too difficult. Okay. They want 24. 24. We're gonna give you an incorrect on that one. It is a 50 millimeter lens, and what I would say is that if you look at the mountains in the background, they don't seem too small. With a 24 millimeter lens, with the boats this size, you'd probably see a smaller background. It would just kind of fade into something a little bit smaller. It's a challenging one. That is a challenging one, I will admit. Alright, let's go to New York City, here, and so I think there's been some people who've probably been to this exact spot. And so team B. What do you think we're looking at? I see some perplexed faces here. Okay. We're gonna ring in with 24. 24. And that is the right answer again. And look out, they're starting to pull ahead here. (class laughs) They are now two points into the lead, and I think we have our last photo quiz here, what focal length is this? And I think this is a good skill set for people to have, to be able to reverse engineer other photos that you like. Not saying that you like this photo, but you know. We have to use something as an example. (class members laugh) I'm very curious as to what's going on in these conversations. (all laugh) Just pick one. Alright. They're literally all giving me a different answer. (all laugh) That's why you have a captain. Makes decisions. 50. We're gonna go with 50, and incorrect answer. The correct answer is a 100 mm lens. We are starting to get some compression effects with these trees at different distances. If it was a 50 or a wide angle, you'd probably notice those back trees getting smaller and smaller. Challenging to do. But in general, you guys did a very good job there. And so I think that's good job. However, team B is pulling ahead. (laughs) About magnification versus angle of view, just because you keep using angle of view, but clearly, things are... Magnified. Yes. Right, and so we can rate the magnification of any lens, by starting with the diagonal of the sensor, so what is our normal lens? And so for most full-frame, we'd call it 43. Let's make it easy math on everyone and call it 50. Okay? So if we have a 100 mm lens, that would be considered two times magnification. When we go up to 200, it would be four times magnification. And on upwards like that. So at 24, we'd be .5 magnification, so you take your normal lens, and then what is this other lens in comparison to it, double or half, or quadruple. Alright, John, we do have a few questions online. And this is for Cheesy, what is... He's talking about, he's seeing vignetting, he or her, on the lens, 10 to 18. One side is always really dark. Why is that happening, or maybe you can just explain what vignetting is. Alright, so vignetting is a darkening of the corner. I don't like to reveal secrets, but I will reveal this one tiny secret that you may not have even noticed, is that the slides on all my classes have a slight vignetting to them. I just like the look of it. And so, the slide that you're looking at is white, but it's a little bit darker in the corner than it is in the middle. And that's the way some lenses look. Wide angle lenses, and typically very fast lenses look. And it's because when you have a wide angle lens, like this, light has to travel further when it's getting into the corners rather than in the middle, and when it travels further, it usually gets darker. And so there's a lot of lenses that have a natural vignetting to them. And it's one of the controls that we're gonna talk about in the art of editing. Because in some cases, you don't want vignetting. You want a nice, even sky tone. And other times, it's nice to add a vignetting. And so sometimes I'm adding it, and sometimes I'm taking it off. And it's more of just an optical effect that we've become quite used to. And yes, I do very specifically have a slide on that later on in the class.
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