So what is the difference between in design and say quack, Photoshop illustrator. Page maker, frame maker. There's all sorts of other programs out there and let's quickly talk about where they all sit. So in terms of in design it has some direct competitors. One would be Microsoft word. Okay. Which is, it's more of an amateur program. Okay. You're not gonna get a design job with it and it has quite a lot of limitations. You can do some nice stuff and word, but really that's the kind of entry level program and then you move into in design. Now other competitors to in design would be the main would be Quack quack Xpress. Now when I was learning, when I was doing my degree as a graphic designer and we all learned quack. Okay. Now, um, as soon as I kind of left my degree to get my first job in design got launched and just, you know that all those tools that I started actually teaching quite way back when. Okay. And it just, it's slowly but surely died of death. I'm sure the people that qua...

ck right now are, you know, they're still making versions and there are people still using it, but it's a very, very small percentage of work. Okay. And pretty much any kind of new work is all done in, in design, some legacy files you've stumbled across occasionally and done in quark. But yeah, we don't use quite very much anymore. I don't use it at all. I haven't used it for probably about 10 years. So it's a long time dead now. Page Maker was it's made by adobe as well and you're probably never going to touch it unless you are. It's it's for a really big things. Say I need to put together a scientific document about some sort of medical treatment, medicine that we're making. Okay. I might open up page maker because it allows many people to work on one document and update it and track it. Okay. If I was going to build a nuclear reactor, I probably document how it's made and how it's been maintained via page make it's a it's a big old program. Okay. So not a lot of people using that one. Okay, definitely not for like creative design. Okay. It's all about in design Now. The other products that might go in hand in hand. Okay. Within design is the Photoshop and illustrator generally, designers will know Photoshop illustrator and in design all together now where they separate out Photoshop a nice clear difference. Okay, In design is a layout program. Okay? You bring in images, bring in text and you can bind them in amazing designs. Okay, Photoshop you open up photographs and you manipulate them. Make them better change them, mess with them. Okay, fix them up and when you're finished with them, you bring into something like in design. If I was making a flyer. Okay. It's a one page fly and I start making it in Photoshop. I could probably get away with it and it would be fine and you know, you can I can make it work. But that would be using something, you know, using Photoshop but it's not meant to be used for. You can do basic stuff like that. But as soon as you have to have multiple pages, Photoshop just falls over. Okay, can't do multiple pages. You can't have master pages or headers and footers and it doesn't deal with type very well because it's mainly a photo editing program. So that's where Photoshop gets used, illustrator is the one that is is reasonably close to in design. It can do a lot of the same things, illustrators mainly for people illustrating. Okay. But what I use it for mainly in kind of kind of design field is more logo work and making icons. It's really kind of geared all the tools structure is around doing those things. But if I had to do a one page flyer, okay. It would look great in illustrator or in design. It wouldn't really matter to me. I would have both programs open and this one's open. Okay. I'm good at both of them. So it doesn't really matter where in design gets used if it's um if I have to start doing things, say it's gonna be a monthly newsletter or flyer, then there's some tools and in design that may help that flow for doing monthly stuff. Okay. The other thing for in design is multiple pages, illustrator can do it, you can have what's called outboards. Okay. But if you get past, like if you've got a really image heavy document and you start getting past 345 pages you'll find illustrator starts grinding to a halt. Okay, get 10 or 20 pages of images and text and it's it's quite hard to use. Okay, start struggling as a program. Whereas in design you can have a 400 page document and fly through it and start working. It's engineered to deal with those lots of pages. Okay. Same thing within design. You can do some basic illustrated stuff in it. There's a pin tool and you can build shapes and you can make icons and import them so you can do that and then design, there's a bit of a crossover between those two. But if you're gonna separate them out, illustrators for doing things like branding. Okay. And logos and illustrations and end designers are all about desktop publishing now, I hope that helps with some of the software and which ones you should be learning if you're completely new to this. Okay, you can start within design and probably the next step would be Photoshop. Okay. Unless you want to start making your own infographics and those sorts of things, then you look at illustrator. I've got courses on all of those. So if you are keen go check out those ones as well. Alright, that'll be it for the what? And where does in design sit in the world of design?

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What are the differences between InDesign and PageMaker, Illustrator, Photoshop, Quark?

What are the differences between InDesign and PageMaker, Illustrator, Photoshop, Quark?

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4. What are the differences between InDesign and PageMaker, Illustrator, Photoshop, Quark?

Lessons

InDesign Tutorial Basics Class Introduction

Exercise files & Projects

What Does Adobe InDesign do?

What are the differences between InDesign and PageMaker, Illustrator, Photoshop, Quark?

How to change MM to Inches & changing UK to US dictionary in InDesign?

New document in InDesign - what is bleed & slug?

How to create your own RGB & CMYK colors in Adobe InDesign

How do I steal colors from a logo using InDesign?

How to color the background of a page in InDesign?

Importing resizing rotating & flipping images & Logos inside InDesign

How to Import text from Microsoft Word into Adobe InDesign

How to group, ungroup & rotate images in Adobe InDesign

How to make a dotted line, dashed line & borders in InDesign

How best to preview your work in Adobe InDesign

How to make a simple PDF from InDesign

How to save your InDesign file as a JPEG

Why should I use CC Libraries in InDesign?

How to share your InDesign files with others by using package document

Class Exercise 1

Quiz - One Page Flyer

Ideas, Inspiration & starter templates

Working with other people's InDesign documents, missing images

How to find missing fonts in InDesign?

How to replace images in InDesign?

Opacity, transparency and see through ness in Adobe InDesign

Why is InDesign adding [Converted] and making me 'save as'

What if I can’t find the InDesign file - can I open the PDF?

Quiz - Other people's files

Creating a new company newsletter or brochure, what are spreads in InDesign

How to use a Master Page in Adobe InDesign

How do to add automatic page numbering to a InDesign file

Removing a master page & deleting parts off the master page in InDesign

Production Video 1

What is Effective PPI & Image resolution in the InDesign links panel

How to add drop shadows to an image or logo in InDesign

What is TypeKit used for in Adobe InDesign?

How to add the Copyright, Registered & Trademark symbols in InDesign

Where can I find the different versions of letters in InDesign - Ligatures.

How to add placeholder text & lorem ipsum & get a word count in InDesign

Importing Text from Microsoft Word & keeping or removing the formatting

Creating Columns in a text box using Adobe InDesign

How do I justify text & turn off hyphenation in InDesign?

What is the space after & leading in Adobe InDesign?

How to underline text with a full width line in Adobe InDesign?

How do I make a paragraph style in Adobe InDesign?

How do I update a Paragraph Style in Adobe InDesign?

How to use Find & Change to remove double spaces after a period or full stop.

Stealing colours from images, is there a format painter in Adobe InDesign?

InDesign Class Exercise 2 - Magazine Spread

Quiz - Company Newsletter/Brochure

How to bring in lots of text into InDesign at once

How do I import paragraph styles from another document

How do I insert completely blank pages in Adobe InDesign

How do I create a gradient in Adobe InDesign

Do I need to use layers in Adobe InDesign

Opacity advanced, mater marks and Transparency Effects in Adobe InDesign

How do I add rounded corners to an image or box in Adobe InDesign?

How to add a large first letter to my text aka Drop Cap

How do I increase the space between letters in Adobe InDesign aka Tracking or Kerning

How do I get text to move around an image or shape using text wrap

Why can’t I put text over anything that has text wrap applied?

How to draw an arrow or triangle or star in Adobe InDesign

How do I put an image inside other shapes like a circle - cropping

What is Adobe Stock

Where can I find free images & icons that I can use for my business

How do I add bullets and numbered lists in Adobe InDesign?

How can I create a table inside Adobe InDesign?

How do I convert tables from Microsoft Word or Microsoft Excel into Adobe InDesign

How do I get images to move with the text in Adobe InDesign using anchored objects?

How do I create a Line Break, Column Breaks & Page Breaks in Adobe InDesign?

How do I make an automatic table of contents in Adobe InDesign?

How do you change the tabs in Adobe InDesign?

Can I change the numbering of my pages so 1 starts later in the InDesign file?

Quiz - Long Business Document